Metro Engagement – Public use of Space in Nova Centre

When: October 24, 2012 — 5 - 7pm

Where: Westin Nova Scotian, Harbour Suite (A&B)

Purpose: This session will discuss the public use of space inside the building.

How can the public space in Nova Centre best serve you and your community?

See the latest plans for Nova Centre’s public space based on the architect’s vision and public input gathered during the provincial engagement sessions. Ask the architect questions in person or online, and take part in an open discussion.

What’s exciting about what you’re seeing?

Top-down view of latest designs

 

Sackville & Grafton

 

Sackville & Grafton

 

Prince & Grafton

 

Prince & Grafton

 

  • http://www.facebook.com/paultaylor42 Paul Taylor

    A nova scotia walk of fame on the Grafton Street part of the development I think would be a great draw. 

  • drybrain

    There’s a real risk of this Grafton Plaza (which is a great idea) being brutal and. The roof looks low. Are those skylights? Proper storefronts would be excellent as well. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/paultaylor42 Paul Taylor

    Well my general feeling is it seem very clinical . Yes it is a great to have modern architectural elements for the exterior surfaces along Argyle , Sackville , Market and Prince . A main street type facade through the Grafton Plazza I think would lend itself to leases by multiple location companies not in our region IE The Gap or others. I think to Las Vegas and the Venetian Resort Hotel Casino where they have Venice indoors with the old architecture in a protected setting. The Grafton Plaaza could have a Faux representation of Main Street Nova Scotia . 

    • drybrain

      No, please. Nothing faux. It always ends up tacky rather than genuinely historical. Contemporary but human-scaled architecture, please.

    • Paul Taylor

       Faux setting can be done well or badly drybrain. So far from what I see the architects team is doing a very good job with public input. The Grafton Street portion that have Cheers , Alfredo Weinstein and Ho is part of what I allude to . Old Sandstone like facades and other Nova Scotian elements is what I can see.

    • drybrain

      Maybe. But the track record for faux-historicism isn’t great. I’d rather focus on great contemporary architecture, and preserving the real historical stuff we have left. (The Fünf Höfe concept looks interesting, if a bit dark.)

  • http://twitter.com/weilandhannes Hannes Weiland

    In terms of integrating a flow-through effect, the layout feels like it has improved. The angled atrium seems to mirror in my mind the highest pedestrian flow (daytime and nightime: up toward Citadel hill and down toward the core of the downtown and waterfront). Are there any renderings of the atrium connection to Argyle Street from the Plaza (looking up and down)? 
    I agree with Paul Taylor that in terms of early material choices a sense of a ‘clinical’ environment is evoked. One of my favorite ‘places’ are the “Fünf Höfe” in Munich, Germany. They introduced natural elements from the ceiling. I’ve attached a picture and here is a link with a description http://www.toytowngermany.com/wiki/F%C3%BCnf_H%C3%B6fe While in terms of functionality the two places don’t compare (Nova Centre is a wide atrium), I feel that plants and lighthing have created a more inviting feeling there.

    Perhaps it would also be worthwhile understanding what the Plaza is envisioned to look like at night? Remember, you people love this area at night!

    Further, I’m not seeing very many opportunities to just “sit down”. I realize you don’t necessairly want to have fixed benches in the ground in the middle of the atrium, but then again, I also don’t want to feel obliged to have to pay for a coffee in a café to listen to the musicians and buskers you have rendered in the picture. Also, older people want resting opportunities and there are VERY FEW between the waterfront and the clock tower.

  • Jackie

    As Hannes points out, this is a notorious nighttime downtown area. I feel that lighting will play a big part here in creating an inviting and exciting atmosphere. Would absolutely like to see an evening concept, espcially as our days grow shorter!

  • DG

    The retail along argyle should be designed with at least seasonal patios to mirror the patios on the other side of the street. Any though to make it pedestrian only?

    • http://www.facebook.com/paultaylor42 Paul Taylor

      The thing I dont like about the seasonal patios on the other side of Argyle is the pressure treated temporary structure look of it. The permanent wide sidewalk concept the architect have envisioned I think cures that temporary problem. Perhaps the City and this development could fix that. All I think of when I see the patios on the Economy Shoe Shoppe side is was there a high tide and some cottage docks got washed up on argyle street .   

  • Paul Taylor

    Thanks for the agreement on the passageway look Hannes Weiland. I agree with the angling of the atrium to the Grafton street. What I am thinking of for the main grafton street passage is Atrium on Bay in Toronto without the lofty glass ceiling.   I like the “Fünf Höfe” in Munich, Germany look as well Hannes.

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